Posted by texrunner2003 on August 26, 2008 at 6:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The dream doesn't march on for Mary Jo Kopechne.

Posted by bulldog2 on August 26, 2008 at 7:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was watching my paint dry...

Posted by jarlead on August 26, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

They banned Edwards for having an affair. So they replaced him with Kennedy and Clinton.

Posted by ropers40 on August 26, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey bulldog I do the same thing when Metheuselah oops I mean when McCain speaks:)
I do have to admit it was not the most enthusiastic thing to watch on TV

Posted by Chili4me on August 26, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I watched until the nausea overwhelmed me. It was beautifully scripted and said absolutely nothing, just hollow promises of "Change". I am excited that Obama knows me though! Kool-Aid anyone?

Posted by squid on August 26, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

that was good TV. Seeing the pictures of the hippies crying in the crowd was one of the funniest things I've seen in awhile.

Posted by Shootstir on August 26, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The only thing that will make this convention interesting is when Joe Biden steps up to the mike and the teleprompter fails...then, watch out. He will let fly with the first thing that pops into his head.

Heck of a gift "O" gave the McCain campaign.

Posted by whatuthink on August 26, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I watched with disgust and bewilderment. How can people raised in this amazing country have such a dislike for the country that has given them so much? How can Obama run as a uniter when every other word out of his mouth and his parties mouth is meant to divide us.

Posted by whatuthink on August 26, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

One more thing the love of my country does not depend on who is in the White House or on what the government has done for me lately. If Obama is the next president I will still love this country and I will still be proud of it. I will respect the President even if I disagree with him. I will hope that he makes good decisions. I will not wish failure on him just so I can say told you so. I respect the democratic congress and hope they make good decisions. I do this because I love this country.

Posted by junebug on August 26, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Why on earth do you watch these things in the first place? Total waste of taxpayer money on both sides of the fence . . . $17 million for each of these beer bashes. They are a JOKE.

BTW, folks who claim to be conservative Christian voters may not want to be voting for Mr. McCain. He is a self-admitted serial adulterer and he collects about $80,000 a year in 100% disability payments AND social security while continuing to work as a salaried government employee. While I don't begrudge him the disability payment at all because he is debilitated from his injuries during Viet Nam; however, I do question how he can legitimately work for wages. I think any one of us would be investigated for fraud. Anyway, just seems a bit incongruous to me. Sounds to me like some folks aren't really "conservatives," they just see the (R) and vote . . . doesn't matter whether that candidate is actually a conservative or not.

He was my candidate in 2000, but not so crazy about him now . . . and NO, I'm not an Obama supporter, either. I don't see a good choice at all in this election. I mean, NONE.

Posted by robertwp on August 26, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Y'all keep it up. This is really entertaining.

You are taking time to watch the dem convention even though you don't like the dems and then taking time to post about it on here.

I love it.

Y'all are an advertiser's dream come true.

Posted by cottonball107 on August 26, 2008 at 6:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Beer bashes" "Total waste of taxpayers money" Where do you get the premise that taxpayer's money is used??..

Posted by JarHead on August 26, 2008 at 7:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cottonball107 They get the idea that party conventions are taxpayer funded the same place they get all of their ideas, they find them writ brown on Charmin. There is a small amount of public funding that goes to political presidential conventions but it ain't as much five minutes in Iraq and it's a better cause. http://www.fec.gov/info/chthree.htm

Posted by reaganite on August 26, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"There is a small amount of public funding that goes to political presidential conventions..."

Nearly 33 million dollars is "small"? And those are only intial payments.

http://www.fec.gov/press/press2007/20...

Posted by JarHead on August 26, 2008 at 9:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

$33 million is less that what we are spending every three hours in Iraq.

Posted by robertwp on August 26, 2008 at 11:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Reaganite,

If you had gone into business on the day Jesus was born, and your business lost a million dollars a day, day in and day out, 365 days a year, it would have taken you until October 2737 to lose a trillion dollars.

Dubya has packed that into a year for each of the seven years that he has been president and he is right on track to make it 8 for 8.
If Bush dropped 33 million dollars of our money he wouldn't consider it worth his time to pick it up. For him it is chump change.

Posted by Chili4me on August 26, 2008 at 11:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Robby-

Most conservatives stay informed of what is going on in both parties. Even when a liberal speaker looks at crowds of their supporters and tells bold face lies, we stand on the side lines and watch it happen.
I hope everyone watches the DNC. They need to be aware of the great "change" that is possible if Obama does win.

I'm sure when the Republican convention rolls around you will have some great talking points like Bush, Cheney, and Halliburton. Good news!! I hear McCain has chosen all three for VP, so it does appear that you can stick with your rhetoric!

So we don't have to go into it- no one talks about the no bid contracts with Halliburton between 1992 and 2000, I guess it isn't convenient.

Posted by robertwp on August 27, 2008 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Most conservatives stay informed of what is going on in both parties. Even when a liberal speaker looks at crowds of their supporters and tells bold face lies, we stand on the side lines and watch it happen."

LMFAO

"So we don't have to go into it- no one talks about the no bid contracts with Halliburton between 1992 and 2000, I guess it isn't convenient."

Cheney wasn't VP during that time. The fact that the no bid contracts were awarded while he was VP and still being compensated by Halliburton is the problem. Cheney is a war profiteer. I don't think that you can say anything worse about a person. Your last statement proves your first statement false and it only took 10 lines. Congrats!

Chili, You shouldn’t be posting so late on a school night!

Posted by whatuthink on August 27, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

robertwp- I watch some of the convention just so I can try and figure out why the Democrats would nominate someone with so little experience. Why is it that so many of the democrats have been hypnotized by the chant of "Change Yes We Can ". The dislike for Bush and all that is republican has cloudy the minds of democrats to the point where they cannot even make rational decision for the country stakes. Hilary would have been a rational choices. But they go and nominate someone who can read a good speech. I hope that come Nov. the majority of people have snapped out of it and realize there's more to being president then great speech's.

Posted by Chili4me on August 27, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

As usual you just don't understand Robby. 1600 posts and still an expert on nothing except copy and paste.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 27, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

bobby....when did they let you out of the half-way house for some social interaction? When do you have to go back?

Posted by robertwp on August 27, 2008 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Reps can't harp too much on experience since Bush boy had none except a figurehead governorship to bank on. It is just another one of those issues that matter sometimes to the conservatives. The difference between Obama and Bush boy is that Obama isn't an idiot. The difference between Obama and McCain is that McCain has been in Washington so long that he doesn't remember all of the positions that he has taken on the issues and so he just tells us that he was a POW in an attempt to dodge the question. It might work for another few weeks and then FOX news will even start to press him for an answer. Next week when McCain gives one of his bear hugs to Bush boy again this thing will be over and done with.

I hope that Cheney gets to make a speech.

Reagan Bushed,
We have compyooters in the half way house just like you have them in the asylum. Maybe one day you will find that out for yourself.

Posted by robertwp on August 27, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since Reagan Bush uses posts exclusively for personal attacks I will use one to remind everybody to check out the Restaurant blog.

http://abilenedining.blogspot.com/

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 27, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bobby, they teach you that during recess or what? That's impressive! I only use posts for personal attacks on those that did me the honor of an attack first. Am I to believe that you, like most libs, can dish out a healthy serving of verbal bliss but can stomach none in return? How very socialist of you........have a great Wednesday.

Posted by robertwp on August 27, 2008 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Reagan bushed,
Thanks for staying on topic.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 27, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bobby,
anytime:)

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 27, 2008 at 4:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bobby and other libs.....please explain this one.

"ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors"
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Convent...

Is this really the change we need?

Posted by robertwp on August 27, 2008 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"A police official later told lawyers for ABC News that Eslocker is being charged with trespass, interference, and failure to follow a lawful order. He also said the arrest followed a signed complaint from the Brown Palace Hotel."

The hotel had asked him to leave two hours before and he didn't do it. They called the cops. If a business asks you to leave their property and you don't do it then this is what usually happens. Is that so hard to understand?

The link you posted explained it. Did you read it?

Posted by dr__dawggy on August 28, 2008 at 5:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

pretty funny...this thread has been dominated by those who would never, ever vote for a Democrat. Thanks for watching and for your predictable non-substantive contributions

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh yeah, They are watching every minute of this thing and praying for Obama to show up in a galabiyya with his madrassa's letterman sweater thrown over his shoulder and, mistaking a reveler’s air horn for a call to prayer, plopping face down toward Mecca with prayers on his lips in perfect Arabic. Saps!

Next week when their convention is on it will probably be cut into pieces by the coverage of Gustav bearing down on the gulf coast. This will give us all an opportunity to reflect back on little Johnny eagerly waiting alongside his big birthday cake for his hero, Bush boy, to show up and watch him blow his candles out while Katrina blew out the candles in New Orleans. Then we can all have such a good picture of what Republican politicians are really famous for.

Won't that be wild? I wonder who Pat Robertson will blame this one on? Maybe the Log Cabin Republicans?

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Police in Denver arrested an ABC News producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of Democratic senators and VIP donors leaving a private meeting at the Brown Palace Hotel."

Same article. Crazy how you read what you want to hear sometimes isn't it?

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

By the way, has Obamessiah met his daily quota of killed unborn babies yet today? I was just checking, you know, since this is also on his platform of ideas. He would like to help bring back to life partial birth abortion. Goodness, you libs are so confused some of your own are leaning on their own faith as justification for abortion and they are Catholic! Are you kidding me? I used to think Forrest Gump was the best definition of "stupid is as stupid does" but Pelosi and Biden have run with that torch like pros. If your own Church refuses to offer communion to you do you think you may think twice about the decisions you are making? This is hilarious!

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Police in Denver arrested an ABC News producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of Democratic senators and VIP donors leaving a private meeting at the Brown Palace Hotel."

The reporter was arrested because he had been asked to leave private property and didn't. Nice spin!

"By the way, has Obamessiah met his daily quota of killed unborn babies yet today?"

That kindergarten treatment of a serious issue is what has given us George W. Bush and his crime family. It is time to grow up and think like a big boy now because the consequences are too dire. Your continued commitment to utter stupidity is costing the rest of us a great deal.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So the 50,000,000 (that's 50 million in case you can't see all the 00000's) people who have been murdered since 1973 without any chance to voice their opposition to the act aren't a serious issue? I would think that it is a good thing to be an advocate for innocent people being murdered wouldn't you? How do you justify this being a part of the platform and still voting for him? I want to know, maybe it will help me understand how you see it. Please enlighten me.

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Not only are you committed to utter stupidity; your reading comprehension is also in question.

You have your own interpretation of the issue of personal choice when it comes to your own body. You are more than willing to give that choice to the government. I am not willing to give you or anybody else that kind of power. The level of intelligence and comprehension that you demonstrate on this forum does not make you seem qualified to determine what is best for me and my person. Thanks for the offer but no thanks! If you want to continue to regurgitate the thoughtless catch phrases associated with this issue in an attempt to pretend that you have any comprehension of what it is really about, then that is fine. You have the freedom of choice to do that. Most people have moved past that at this point.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Most people have moved past it or most liberals have moved past it? I would think that most people who have no faith have moved on but those who realize the damage caused by this issue have not. Unfortunately, my level of education has little to do with this issue. Even a blind bat can see that the right to personal choice doesn't trump the right to murder. Last time I checked the right to privacy doesn't trump it either! You can "spin" your response to this a thousand times but it does your "argument" (if you want to call it that) no good. Murder is murder no matter what carpet you sweep it under. I'm simply asking how you can support ANYBODY with your vote that is OK with this issue? It's not a tough question. Do you simply pretend it's not happening? No need for the temper tantrums.....just an answer please.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Summary and comment by NRLC spokesman Douglas Johnson: "Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an Illinois state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion -- even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama's legislative actions in 2003 -- denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions -- were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose."

This was posted on another comment section by someone else but I'll steal it for this discussion. How can you justify your support for somebody that does this? It's a simple question! He's even past the most liberal liberals. McCain isn't anywhere near the most conservative conservatives.

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tell us all about that bill and its ramifications. Tell us who else voted against it. The documents are not "newly obtained". Check out this story:

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_...

Once again it seems that you really don't care about the real issue of abortion and its consequences. You only use it as a political wedge like George H. W. Bush and John McCain, who were pro choice only until a political opportunity raised its head and then they suddenly had an epiphany. Wow! Isn’t that weird?

The fact is that this issue has been used to get votes for the last 30 years and the result has been a Republican pres, Republican congress and a stacked supreme court and, guess what, Roe v. Wade still stands. Hmmm, it seems like someone has been played for a fool. Are your ears burning? When abortion was illegal it still happened all of the time with terrible consequences for everyone involved. Five thousand women die from clandestine abortions every year in Latin America. It has one of the highest abortion rates in the world, despite its near-universal illegality. You need to realize that the decision to legalize abortion in the US was actually a humane decision. Making abortion illegal again would not save the babies. Face it.
If you really care about the tragedy of abortion then get your rear end out there and dedicate your life to preventing it from ever happening again in this area. Talk to every woman between 20 and 35 that you meet and tell them that you will personally give any unwanted child that they might conceive a good home and raise it to be a testimony to their wise choice of adoption instead of abortion. West Texas is a great place to start. Christian Homes would be glad to take your big fat check much more readily than I can stomach your big fat posts of hollow self-righteousness. Do something that counts if you really care. If you just want to wag the issue around in order to move some sick political fat cat agenda that favors war while it screws the poor, then squawk right on. The potential for hypocrisy is right there at your fingertips. That would also be much more fitting to your screen name. Maybe your responses here will prevent someone from aborting. Maybe pigs will fly out of your ear in the process.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope you take cholesterol medication bobby. I think your feelers got stuck! You're assuming that I'm the idiot who falls prey to some "fat cat", as you so gracefully put it, looking for easy votes. Have you ever thought that maybe the reason so many of us have a problem with it is because we understand the damage done when we turn our back on our maker? We will all be accountable one day and so will those who don't use their own power when elected to enact change. I'm not speaking for God so don't try to spin it that way. What I'm saying is regardless of what you do or say or what some "fat cat" does or says, I have a responsibility to stand up for what is right and for what I believe in and refuse to give in no matter what other issues somebody offers. It's called having some conviction in life and if America had a little more we wouldn't be where we are.....domestically. Don't think there's a coincidence between our country moving away from God and God's blessings moving away from us. You're kidding yourself if that's the case.

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Have you ever thought that maybe the reason so many of us have a problem with it is because we understand the damage done when we turn our back on our maker?"

America is a gluttonous self-indulgent society that prides itself on its conspicuous consumption. We spend most of our money designing and building new and improved ways of killing people. We deal with the problems of obesity while the rest of the world deals with hunger. We favor the wealthy while we abhor the poor but the one issue that has "turned our backs on God" is the issue of abortion? You have a really weird theology.

One of our "Christian leaders", in the face of two wars, rising poverty, reduced access to health care, genocide, a resurgence in the cold war and a tropical storm bearing down on the Gulf of Mexico, has asked his "Christian" followers to pray for a rain out of Obama's speech tonight.

Oh, we have turned our backs on God all right but it isn't because of legal access to abortion.

I couldn't resist this bait:

"Don't think there's a coincidence between our country moving away from God and God's blessings moving away from us."

I won’t even try to discuss the fact that almost 80 percent of Americans claim to be Christian or that the Evangelicals have seen larger membership numbers while “God was turning his back” on us. That can wait.

Your God has "blessed" the oil companies beyond their wildest dreams. They have enjoyed the highest profits in the history of our country. Your God must LOVE fossil fuel. Buy your preacher a Hummer. Your God has "blessed" Saudi Arabia, Dubai, China and Russia with a huge transfer of wealth. He must love Islam and Communism. Your God has cursed the poor of the world with disease, pestilence and hopelessness while he has blessed Hugh Hefner and Donald Trumpp, Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and Tom Cruise with wealth and fame beyond imagination. It is easy to see who he really cares about. Israel, the home of His chosen people, is "blessed" with more enemies and less security since WWII. What have they done to deserve that? I always thought that Jesus said that hard times were a blessing and wealth was a curse. Please tell me some more about how your God uses his blessings and curses to carry out your, I mean His will and do your, I mean His justice. You seem to have an inside track.

Posted by Reagan_Bush08 on August 28, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No inside track at all but you sound like you've got a lot of hot air rumbling around in there. I'm not sure I ever said I thought that God's blessings were only monetary ones. You assumed that one. I was referring to the average citizen and how mad they are at everyone these days. When I was growing up everyone was happy and would help each other....it's kind of a golden rule thing but you may not know what I'm talking about. People helped neighbors and looked out for each other. They also didn't speak poorly of each other when not in the presence of the one being spoken about. You see bobby, when someone lives with conviction in their life it begins to work in all aspects of their being. It's those that choose to force it out and dwell on the negativity that is fed to them that lose this opportunity to live happily. This decision to live in a constant state of negativity and anger rubs off on others whether that is the intent or not. One cold shoulder results in a few more and so on. If that cold shoulder would've been a simple hello the whole progression wouldn't have started. That is the conviction I'm speaking about. Obviously, respect would be one of those fine qualities that has gone to the wayside for one reason or another. I tend to lean towards believing greed and being selfish have played a part in this not to mention all the bitter people we have in this world rubbing off on everyone. Give it a week of being generous and respectful of others and see if it doesn't help you out a little. In case you missed me tying back into the killing of babies piece, that would include the respect thing. Respecting God's creation (both mother and baby) and respecting human life and dignity in general. Who are we, humans, to put our own value on a life? I don't care what religion you are I don't think any one human, or group of them for that matter, should be able to decide the fate of another without proper discourse in the courts at the least. I do believe the death penalty has it's good qualities but I'll save that for another argument.

I may be wrong but I'm never in doubt:)

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 4:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"When I was growing up everyone was happy and would help each other....it's kind of a golden rule thing but you may not know what I'm talking about. People helped neighbors and looked out for each other. They also didn't speak poorly of each other when not in the presence of the one being spoken about. "

Are you going to tell me when this was or are you going to be nebulous?

Like I said before, I understand Jesus to have said clearly that what we perceive as a curse is in fact a blessing. What we perceive to be a blessing is in fact a curse. You said that God had turned His back on America. You have to have something more than what you have stated to back this up. You have laid it out there by saying that God is cursing America because of legal abortions. Abortion became legal in 1973. Things got pretty good after that for many people in this country after that point. Was it a blessing or a curse? The truth is that you don't have a clue.

Posted by whatuthink on August 28, 2008 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaC...
This has all the links to check on the Born Alive bill.

Posted by robertwp on August 28, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If you really care about this issue then read this for a fair report on what happened.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-20...

There is much more to this story than what the extreme right wing sites (the only ones reporting on this "new" story) make out of it. The passage of the bill in question would have jeopardized a woman's right to chose. That is a right that Obama has supported all along.

Posted by robertvp on August 29, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If a Kennedy can gets your boat running, then you must be dead in the water. SICK! His entire life is a sick story!

Posted by robertwp on August 29, 2008 at 6:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"If a Kennedy can gets your boat running, then you must be dead in the water. SICK! His entire life is a sick story!"

If that is true then Bush's entire life story is a nausea fest.

Posted by robertwp on August 29, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"When I was growing up everyone was happy and would help each other....it's kind of a golden rule thing but you may not know what I'm talking about. People helped neighbors and looked out for each other. They also didn't speak poorly of each other when not in the presence of the one being spoken about. "

That is still true in my neighborhood. Maybe God has just turned his back on you.

Posted by jarlead on August 29, 2008 at 9:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Robert, your response to renoij was at a 5th grade level. Very thought provoking.....not! Your overall comments on many issues obviously shows a totaly lack of credibiltiy.

Posted by robertwp on August 30, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

laj,
Give me a list of things GWB has done for this country.

I will give you a list of things that Teddy has done.

On American Jobs:
Keeping Jobs in America and Creating High Quality Jobs
Fighting for a Fair Wage for All Americans
Ensuring Retirement Security and Strengthening Social Security
Lifting Families Out of Poverty and Reducing Unemployment
Helping Americans Balance Work and Family
Giving Employees a Voice at Work and Ensuring Safe Workplaces

On Equal Rights:
Standing Up for the Rights of Minority Groups
Stopping Workplace Discrimination
Preventing Hate Crimes
Fair Immigration Policy
Recognizing America’s March of Progress

On Homeland Security and Foreign Relations:
Securing America’s Borders and Ports
Protecting America from Bioterrorism
Fighting for Responsible Gun Safety
Strengthening Diplomatic Foreign Relations

On Education:
Improving America’s Education Policy
All children deserve A Quality Education
Making Sure Schools Have Excellent Teachers and Adequate Resources
Enriching Education for Students
Providing a Boost in Life for Children in Our Communities
Making Higher Education Affordable
Providing a Lifetime of Opportunities through Job Training

For more info on these issues go to tedkennedy.com